For those will a Dell P2415Q and P2715Q monitors..you don't need a convertor! Dell for some reason locked the monitor at HDMI 1.4. You can disable this. Follow this link. IT WORKS! My PS4 Pro and monitor are now 4K after a year of waiting. If I knew this earlier...sigh.
http://www.dell.com/support/article/sg/en/sgdhs1/sln306595/setting-…
HDMI 2.0 to DisplayPort 1.2 ?
My P2715Q has 4K 60Hz enabled by default on HDMI. I tried this on my P2415Q which had only 4K 30Hz enabled on HDMI. It worked after a couple tries (4K 60Hz over HDMI). The thing that was weird is that the Enable and Disable option didn't redraw when I pressed up or down but you can see the selection has changed when you go into the option again. The cable needs to be unplugged on the PC side, you can leave it plugged in on the monitor side.
I talked to GaminTechLTD and they sent that to me this.
https://gamintechshop.weebly.com/store/p11/New_-_HDMI_2.0_to_DisplayPort_1.4_Adapter.html
The converter is explained on our website. It allows for a Displayport monitor to display 4K HDR content at 60hz from a device that is capable of up to HDMI 2.0 content. This means that devices such as the Sony PS4 Pro and Microsoft Xbox One X can display 4K HDR content at 60hz to your DisplayPort enabled monitor with the help of our adapter
I hope they changed it, because the device they pictured is this:
https://www.c2g.com/uk/product/80928/displayport-to-hdmi-vga-or-dvi-adapter-converter#support
which is a DisplayPort to HDMI 1.4, VGA, DVI adapter.
I would like to see a url to their webpage that explains their converter.
I emailed their support asking for a spec sheet. They didn't give me one, but they did give me a bit more information about the product.
"Hello,
Our HDMI 2.0 to DP 1.4 Adapter will cease to be manufactured in April 2018. We won’t be supporting it anymore. However, you could still order from the batch that’s left. The adapter lets you use an HDMI 2.0 device such as a game console on a monitor which is only capable of a DisplayPort connection. It supports resolutions up to 4960x2160 at 60hz 4:4:4 with HDR support as well. HDCP is also not an issue which you would tend to see on other adapters which can only exceed up to the 1920x1200 resolution.
Thanks,
Mathew Grey at gamintechsales"
Seems pretty fishy, especially seeing as how people here have been stating that gamin has/will discontinue the product for a while now, and then they go and "update" it to dp1.4 and then straight away claim it will be discontinued once again.
However If someone wants to risk it and provide proof, I hope we're all proven wrong!
I'm also looking for a HDMI 2.0 to DisplayPort 1.2 adapter, and found this after a lot of Googling:
http://www.partilink.com/product-info.php?id=94
I contacted Partilink and they confirmed the product will be available in March, and will be priced $200.
Partilink was mentioned on page 4 of this thread.
There are very few displays that use DP 1.4. The Dell 8K display does. DP 1.4 allows 4K at 120 Hz or two 4K at 60 Hz. 8K requires two 3840 x 4320 60 Hz connections which means using two DP 1.4 cables (8K is four times larger than 4K).
HDMI 2.0 can't do more than 14.4 Gbits/s. DisplayPort 1.2 allows slightly more at 17.28 Gbits/s so there's no point in using DisplayPort 1.4.
I think any DisplayPort 1.4 display that exists in the future will work fine with a 4K 60Hz DisplayPort 1.2 signal.
Yogarine wrote:
I'm also looking for a HDMI 2.0 to DisplayPort 1.2 adapter, and found this after a lot of Googling:
http://www.partilink.com/product-info.php?id=94
I contacted Partilink and they confirmed the product will be available in March, and will be priced $200.
Any idea also where this is going to be for sale? or only through there website?
Luca Delponte wrote:
Hi Techbundy, if you scroll up joevt bought one and reported everything about his/her experience
Sorry my technical english is not that great,,
But as i can read this adapter will be available and will let me play 4k 60hz with my xbox one on hdmi2.0>DP1.2 connection?
Ill be happy to pay 200$ thats better than a new 4k screen?
What is your opinion on this?
Luca Delponte wrote:
From what the report from joevt it seems like it. But, if you actually READ the whole report, you would find out that after shipping and taxes the adapter for the moment is nearly 400$. Please scroll up.
Yeah so we should wait another few months? wait till things get cheaper if they ever going to be.. what a hassle for one adapter haha.
Thanks bud for the quick reply
Luca Delponte wrote:
From what the report from joevt it seems like it. But, if you actually READ the whole report, you would find out that after shipping and taxes the adapter for the moment is nearly 400$. Please scroll up.
Luca Delponte wrote:
Again, Mu7ammad, we asked multiple times for pictures of the adapter. Could you please provides us with one?
Hey, I'm sorry for the wait I don't remember you asking me for anything but I've shared images of it now. It's the ordinary generic looking HDMI-DP adapter with a USB powering plug which when i take it out causes the screen to go black so it's a necessity. This makes me wonder if i'm missing out on any detail as although the picture quality is superb other companies with $400 converters might have better technology otherwise there wouldn't be a huge price difference. If this $400 converter is out I'll definitely give it a shot as my monitor is irreplaceable. I'm also done creating a video showcasing the adapter. I experienced a new issue however. The input is not detected after hours of playtime and I find that the adapter is extremely hot when this occurs but I fixed it by placing a fan in the back of my setup to keep it cool (I guess it is working so my idea of the adapter overheating might be true) but I'm going to see if gamintech is willing to replace my adapter since the lifespan of this adapter might be short given the abnormality it's been producing. The image quality is amazing on my display, and I think it (my monitor) upscales it to 8K (maybe?) because it beats the XBRX830C I own.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RiJhso1_yjdf8Dweq-9RKg4fuOWr45_i
) or your windows out frequency/resolution ( e.g.
) so that we have the picture "3840 × 2160 60 Hz" in your picture collection?Let me clear a couple of things and make an assumption.
1) The partilink product is NOT 400$. It's 400$ after shipping and customs. It's 199$. That is to say that if one were to set up a mass drop or similar you would end up being closer to 200$ than to 400$ . The product clearly uses some kind of controller which must be similar to the gamintechsales one.
2) The gamintechsales one put the controller directly in the header of the dp receptacle.
Assumption: the controller is the same or very similar across the two of them. The partilink one is enclosed in a box and there is some kind of dissipation. The gamintechsales one doesn't have any kind of dissipation, making it hot even after a short usage. It would be wise to help the dissipation of the heat (a fan? a dissipator?)
Aftermath: I live in Europe. Gamintechsales only operates in the US. Shipment from China most probably have higher customs costs than in the Americas. I will never be able to buy either one. (Sad face).
Mu7ammad's last picture (in the google drive link) has the 8K display's overlay picture clearly showing 3840x2160,60Hz on the bottom right corner. I believe the image on the screen is from an X Box One (those are X Box games being pictured).
The overlay says "DP Capability: DP 1.4". I don't know if that refers to the adapter or the display. A test from a DP 1.2 computer, DP 1.2 adapter, or Thunderbolt 3 port might port clear that up (since Thunderbolt 3 doesn't support DP 1.4 yet).
I think the partilink and opto-media converter boxes might have more chips than the gamintech adapter? They are bigger. The opto-media one has two relatively large chips. Maybe the gamintech one has a chip at both ends? I wouldn't try opening it myself. People use x-rays for this kind of investigation.
Yeah it’s a picture from the my games and apps section of my Xbox One X. Also DP capability on this monitor is just stating the maximum DP version the monitor can take. It actually aggrevates me how Dell couldn’t wait and opt for the new HDMI 2.1 connection which is backwards compatible supporting up to 10K at 120hz. I wouldn’t have this issue to begin with kind of feels outdated already :/
The spec sheet for LG31MU97 says it supports 4K at 30 Hz on HDMI.
If the PS4 Pro won't do 4K at 30 Hz (because Sony doesn't like you or they think it makes games look bad), but will do 4K at 60 Hz (because Sony wants you to buy a new display), then you need to use the DisplayPort connection of the LG31MU97 to do 4K at 60 Hz.
To use the DisplayPort connection of the LG31MU97, you need to use a HDMI 2.0 to DisplayPort 1.2 converter, like the ones we're discussing in this thread.
I don't have a PS4 Pro to test my HDMI 2.0 to DisplayPort 1.2 converter.
I only tried the opto-media one.
The partilink one might be interesting - it will output to two DisplayPort displays but I don't think any of us need that feature. It says it will transmit at least stereo audio over DisplayPort which will be useful if your DisplayPort display has audio (the LG31MU97 doesn't have audio).
The opto-media converter extracts audio to analog RCA or digital S/PDIF instead and does not output audio on DisplayPort. This feature doesn't matter in the case of the PS4 Pro because the PS4 Pro also has a separate audio output.
The prices are about the same (i.e. very expensive).
Looks like gamintech updated their website. The image of their HDMI 2.0 to DisplayPort 1.4 converter has been updated.
https://gamintechshop.weebly.com
Their converter looks like HDMI 1.4 to DisplayPort 1.2 adapters I've tried in the past where it uses USB for power. It's most similar (or exactly the same) to the one from StarTech. StarTech has a sticker on the HDMI connector on the underside (shown blank in the gamintech picture). It's possible StarTech is using the same Chinese manufacturer except gamintech somehow gets an HDMI 2.0 version?
Curiously, the one I have from StarTech doesn't match the image on the StarTech website (the shape of the plastic around the DisplayPort connector is different - mine is rectangular, has no grip lines, and has slightly convex top and bottom surfaces with no markings).
Mu7ammad posted pictures (link in an above post) of the HDMI 2.0 adapter he got from gamintech. It looks like my HDMI 1.4 adapter from StarTech instead of the HDMI 1.4 adapter on StarTech's website or the HDMI 2.0 adapter on gamintech's website.
This is more evidence that StarTech and Gamintech are using the same Chinese manufacturer? Is it possible that the adapters are the same, except the Gamintech one is overclocked to support HDMI 2.0 input? Maybe overclocking causes the overheating problem reported by Mu7ammad? Maybe that's why StarTech doesn't sell a HDMI 2.0 version?
The converter I have has heatsinks on the chips and has a metal shell also used as a heatsink. The Gamintech/StarTech adapters just have plastic shells.
If you do a Google reverse image search on that gamingtechhub, and go to the bottom of the page, lots of people are selling it
https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZistcoqV7bVP8v_1urIlKsZ4D…
Mu7ammad wrote:
I got a replacement and the overheating problem doesn’t seem to be happening. Looks glorious on my 8K monitor which I knew would destroy my Sony TV. GaminTech’s adapter is $150 so it’s a matter of what’s affordable. Gamintech charges for function over materials.
Could you please link me to their website page or something for me to buy from, cause I can't seem to find any. :(( btw i live in the UK.
Psa: you guys could go for gamintech if you want an affordable option theyre closing manufacturing next month (what they told me by email) theyre in stock but their site is giving them issues (what they told me by email) so their checkout system is closed. I’d prefer partilink for the quality and longevity maybe but for $150 gamintech isnt bad.
I bought Optomedia CMV-535 converter.
I have received converter yesterday. But I’m not able to get it work with my monitor Benq bl3201pt.
I have connected hdmi 2.0 cable from my videocard (PC) to converter and another end from converter to my monitor via Displayport cable. And nothing shows on the screen. The picture did not appear even after resolution was reduced in the video card settings. The cables that I have tried are working fine with 4k 60hz if connect them directly from PC to monitor (without converter). Maybe there is new firmware to this converter available?
But the main reason why I decided to buy this converter is to be able to play on my PS4 Pro with my 4k monitor via DisplayPort because there is no hdmi 2.0 input on it. And guess what – my PS4 Pro also does not display anything on the screen via this converter.
I wrote to Optomedia guy (his name is Yoyo) who sell me the thing, but at the moment there are public holidays until April 9 in Taywan, so I guess I shall wait for his reply.
What graphics card are you using?
You need two cables, a DisplayPort 1.2 cable and a HDMI 2.0 cable. You say both work at 4K 60Hz? What 4K 60 Hz display did you test with the HDMI cable (since the Benq bl3201pt only supports 4K 30 Hz via HDMI 1.4)?
The opto-media CMV-535 has a power supply that needs to be connected. Does the blue LED power indicator light up?
The opto-media CMV-535 has two dip switches to select between 4 different EDID settings. I'm using OFF-OFF (OFF = up position) to get 4K 60Hz from my Nvidia Titan X HDMI 2.0 port to a Dell 4K display's DisplayPort input. Any setting should be able to get something to display from Windows 10.
OFF-OFF = 3840x2160 60Hz
ON-OFF = 4096x2160 60Hz
OFF-ON = 3840x2160 30Hz
ON-ON = 1080p 60Hz
It's possible that we might have two different firmware versions. I would like a firmware updater where I can modify the EDID settings myself.
I'm using Palit GTX 1080 (reference version). I have DisplayPort 1.2 cable, which I'm using now to connect my PC to monitor for 4k 60hz, and I have HDMI 2.0 cable (18Gb/s), which I bought recently. Also I have second HDMI 2.0 cable from PS4 Pro kit. Benq bl3201pt only supports 4K 30 Hz via HDMI 1.4, but if you create 4k 60hz custom resolution in Nvidia control panel the monitor then is able to handle this. But there are some flickering in this case, so this is not the option fore daily use.
CMV-535 power supply is connected and the blue indicator lights up. Also I have tried different positions of switches, but none of them worked.
It sounds like your PC is able to detect a monitor connection on the HDMI 2.0 output and lets you change the resolution setting, but no signal is coming out of the DisplayPort of the CMV-535. The benq doesn't show any useful error message?
Can you extract the EDID from each of the 4 settings? Do they appear to be reasonable? We could compare to see if there's a difference in our firmwares.
You might have a bad unit. Or maybe there's a compatibility issue between it and the benq. Trying other DisplayPort displays would help to eliminate that possibility. It doesn't even have to be a 4K display...
Did you try setting the resolution to 1920x1080 (with or without changing the dip switches)?
I’ve spent a lot of time testing the converter and I managed to get an image on Monitor from my PC only in the resolution of 1366x768 and in any resolution less of 1366x768. Both converter’s switches were in upper position. So the converter works, but 1366x768 is a max supported resolution somehow for my unit. And that’s is not how this converter should work. That is very strange. The second thing is that my PS4 Pro is still not able to give me a picture on a screen even if I manually select 720p resolution (which is 1280x720 pixels) in PS4 settings.
I have bought two additional Displayport 1.2 cables (one of them is DP 1.2 to miniDP 1.2, so I've tried both DP ports of my Monitor) and second HDMI 2.0 cable but they not helped either. It total I have tried 5 different cables- 2 HDMI 2.0 cables and 3 Displayport 1.2 cables. So the problem obviously not in cables.
The CMV-535 works for me to convert 4K 60Hz HDMI to DisplayPort. You've tried different cables. Have you tried different displays?
There's an Nvidia webpage about how to get EDID at:
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2867
The suggested app, Entech's moninfo.exe appears to work well enough.
You'll want to compare the EDID for the benq display (for DisplayPort 1.2 and HDMI 1.4 ports), and the four settings of the CMV-535. Use select all, copy, and paste to get the text output.
If the video timings in the EDID from the CMV-535 is much different than the benq for the desired resolution of 4K 60 Hz, then maybe you need to make an override?
Or, what if you connect the benq directly using DisplayPort 1.2 (without the converter), but override the EDID with that from the CMV-535 to see if that EDID is compatible with the benq?
What is the pixel clock of the 1366×768 resolution? I wonder if the DisplayPort connector is falling back from 4 lanes to 2 or 1 lanes?
My current theory is that the BenQ BL3201PT display is incorrectly advertising a max TMDS clock of 165 MHz (ARTA sent me the EDID) and the CMV-535 is incorrectly limiting output resolutions because of that. 165 MHz would only allow resolutions up to around 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz just as ARTA found with his testing.
If that is the problem, then the CMV-535 or the BenQ BL3201PT need a new firmware. It's possible that the SIIG and Gofanco versions of the adapter have the same bad firmware...
I don't know of any way to override the EDID for 4K 60 Hz DisplayPort between the display and the adapter like the Gefen DisplayPort Detective Plus could for lower resolutions.
Update to my theory: I looked at the EDID which causes Monitor Asset Manager app (moninfo.exe) to think the Max Pixel Clock is 165 MHz. I used “AW EDID Editor” from www.analogway.com which more clearly shows the relationship between the bytes and the settings in the EDID. In the BenQ DisplayPort EDID, the CE vendor specific data (VSDB) for HDMI (IEEE Registration Identifier 0x000C03) has the minimum size of 5 bytes. It is missing the 7th byte for the max TMDS clock.
Maybe the CMV-535 assumes a max TMDS clock of 165 MHz when the byte is missing, just like Monitor Asset Manager, and won't output anything greater than 165 MHz.
Found another HDM 2.0 to DisplayPort 1.2 adapter for $200:
http://www.siig.com/hdmi-2-0-to-displayport-1-2-converter-4kx2k-60hz.html
It looks very similar to the CMV-535 that I have except the case is rounded and the power supply uses a different connector. The product country of origin is also the same: Taiwan.
I have bought SIIG's HDMI 1.4 to DisplayPort adapter before. Now they have a HDM 2.0 adapter. They're based in California.
Word of warning for Australians: buying from siig means you'll be slogged with a shipping fee almost as large as the price of the device itself. I just ordered one off Amazon which seems to be /exactly/ the same as the one sold by siig: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BT4BG4C
The only thing I'm worried about is the HDCP part. It /does/ advertise it supports HDCP 2.2/1.4, so I'm hoping I'll be able to stream amazon/netflix in 4k (main reason I want one of these adapters). Luckily since it's fulfilled by Amazon it shouldn't be too difficult to get a refund if it's not the case.
I'll report back once I receive it.
Oh, I just noticed the SIIG one is also available through Amazon now. Just canceled my order for the Gofanco one and placed an order for the SIIG one mainly because SIIG seem like a more reputable company, even if they are the same device. (I also prefer the minimalist look of the SIIG version)
https://www.amazon.com/r/dp/B07C39QBSF
Good find. The Gofanco adapter product page:
http://www.gofanco.com/products/hdmi/hdmi-2-0-to-displayport-1-2-co…
The SIIG adapter did not work. (Bought from Amazon). PS4 Pro + Acer Predator XB271HK.
- The 3840x2160 60 Hz mode's (default, out-of-box mode) signal was not detected by my display.
- The other three EDID modes were detected, but the PS4 defaulted to 1080p 60 Hz saying, "4K video at 60 Hz is not supported. The PS4 output is currently 2K video."
- 24 Hz, 25 Hz, and 30 Hz were available frequencies (stated by my PS4), but my display's OSD doesn't give me any options to switch into those frequency modes.
lucasbrown wrote:
- 24 Hz, 25 Hz, and 30 Hz were available frequencies (stated by my PS4), but my display's OSD doesn't give me any options to switch into those frequency modes.
Aren't you supposed to select the frequency from the PS4, not the OSD?
I wonder if the EDID of the Acer XB271HK is similar to the BenQ BL3201PT (mentioned above). Can you post the EDID of the XB271HK? I just need the hex bytes.
There's a link to Entech's Monitor Asset Manager (moninfo.exe) at
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2867
It should work on any PC, with either Intel, AMD, or Nvidia graphics that has a DisplayPort connection to your Acer XB271HK. Run moninfo.exe, select your display (real-time), scroll to the bottom where it says "Raw data", copy everything after that and paste it here. You can remove commas (with search and replace) to save some space.
The EDID for my Dell P2415Q is pasted below. The first 8 bytes (16 hex digits) are always 00FFFFFFFFFFFF00):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've also bought the SIIG converter for my PS4 pro and my monitor is similar to the one Lucasbrown owns, it is Acer Predator XB321HK. Unfortunately my monitor receives no signal when i choose the RGB 2160 option on PS4 and yuv420 is greyed out. Is there anyway i can tamper with something to make it work or should i just refund the converter? By the way here's the raw data i copied by using Monitor Asset Manager: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, your EDID for the Acer Predator XB321HK also has a 5 byte VSDB but the IEEE registration number is not that of HDMI. Monitor Asset Manager shows it as:
CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x00044B
CEC physical address..... 0.1.0.1
Maximum TMDS clock....... 165MHz
But I don't think Maximum TMDS clock applies to anything other than the HDMI VSDB (IEEE registration number 0x000C03).
I think you should ask SIIG if the adapter works with a display that has that EDID, and if not, can they supply a firmware update to fix the issue?
I just tried other resolutions using my PC with GTX 1080 ti and there was no signal whatsoever on any EDID settings on the converter, just a black screen. I also tried it with an older laptop with integrated HD graphics (samsung np-sf410), same thing. This is very interesting. I can at least get 1080p signal with PS4 and nothing with a PC or a laptop using this converter (when i plug in hdmi directly without converter to the monitor, both the pc and laptop works). What do you think this suggests?
There is zero reason why a g-sync monitor should not be compatible. If it doesn't work, then they need to fix it. Their engineering department should have tools to use your EDID with a display that is known to work. If the problem is with the EDID, then they should be able to change the firmware to workaround that problem.
I have found one strange behavior with my CMV-535 and Dell P2415Q.
The Dell's DisplayPort inputs support all CVT-RB calculated timings for 3840x2160 from 30Hz to 60Hz (testing using macOS, SwitchResX, Nvidia Titan X (Maxwell)).
But the CMV-535 converter won't pass CVT-RB calculated timings for 3840x2160 when the refresh rate is between 35Hz and 44Hz.
The Dell's HDMI port (which shouldn't matter for our purposes) supports CVT-RB calculated timings for 3840x2160 up to 38Hz. 50Hz and 60Hz work when using a 594 MHz pixel clock (as stated in the EDID). Maybe other refresh rates will work when they use a 594 MHz pixel clock (need to manually adjust the sync widths or find a timing calculator that can use a fixed pixel clock).
It may be important to ensure that the timing used by your graphics card matches the information from the Display's DisplayPort EDID instead of the converter's EDID. For example, the CMV-535 reports this (594MHz, 135kHz, 60Hz)
Modeline............... "3840x2160" 594,000 3840 4016 4104 4400 2160 2168 2178 2250 +hsync +vsync
The BenQ BL3201PT and Acer XB321HK report this:
Modeline............... "3840x2160" 533,250 3840 3888 3920 4000 2160 2163 2168 2222 +hsync -vsync
My Dell P2415Q is like this (but it accepts 594 MHz):
Modeline............... "3840x2160" 533.250 3840 3902 3950 4000 2160 2163 2168 2222 +hsync -vsync
The Adapter reports limits of 600MHz, 136KHz, 61Hz
The BenQ reports limits of 600MHz, 160kHz, 76Hz
The Dell reports limits of 540MHz, 140kHz, 76Hz
The Acer reports limits of 540MHz, 133kHz, 60Hz
The Dell seems to work regardless of the bandwidth limit.
The BenQ's limits seem fine, but try the 533MHz timing from the DisplayPort EDID anyway.
The Acer's limits are less than required for 594MHz, so try the 533MHz timing from the DisplayPort EDID instead.
I have tried to change timings in Nvidia Control Panel and in CRU 1.3 program for my Benq bl3201pt and converter CMV-535, but all without success :( There is still max resolution which I can get from converter is 1920x1200 in 1080p mode of converter and 1366x768 in 3840x2160 60hz mode of converter. All resolutions which above it are not provide picture on screen. We need a good EDID editor program, where we can edit and then upload new EDID for DisplayPort. I wish someone could advise such program.
My friend has Dell monitor with DP, but its only 1080p. Anyway, I'll try my converter and my PS4 Pro with it shortly.
So I just received my SIIG adapter today. It works! Sorta. I can get 60hz, but it DOESN'T support HDCP 2.2, despite its big HDCP 2.2! sticker on the box. I managed to sort out hdcp with a down-converter I was previously using (though it's VERY finicky, and the screen will often cut out with the extra adapter). Here are some pictures: https://drive.google.com/open?id=15jmBYlP9XXB91_H3bOkIh3vqm9vStS3F
Also, here is my edid for reference. My display is a Philips BDM4065UC: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 neGYtn!
Thank you very much for your testing. I have the exact same monitor and I really appreciate your sharing of information. One note: it's the BDM4065UC that doesn't support HDCP 2.2. Therefore if it REALLY doesn't strip the protection (as I was hoping it would) you would obvisouly need the "downconverter". One thing is not clear: what is your picture source? It's not very clear from your post. Cheers!
Yes, the BDM4065UC doesn't support HDCP 2.2. If it did we wouldn't be in this situation, I'm sure. Not only that, but displayport 1.2/1.2a doesn't support HDCP 2.2. So if nothing other than the HDMI 2.0 input of the converter supports HDCP 2.2, and the device itself doesn't convert it to HDCP 1.4 so that the displayport can make use of it, it's effectively 100% useless and misleading information on the product page.
What do you mean by what is my picture source? Where I'm getting the information from? It's connected to my roku ultra.
I've just ordered an ODROID-C2 SoC which comes with an hdmi 2.0 port. I'll be putting LibreElec onto it and doing some further testing to see if 4K works properly without all the HDCP nonsense getting in the way.
(and if you were curious, the downconverter I used in the second picture is https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-115242-Blackbird-HDCP-Converter/dp/B01CT7THLO -- I wouldn't recommend it paired with the SIIG converter. It seems they REALLY don't want to get along together, at-least on the roku).
Thanks for the EDID. It doesn't seem to do anything different/better than the BenQ
s EDID except that the BenQ marks 1920 x 1080p at 60Hz as Native in the CE video identifiers (VICs) even though the BenQ EDID also specifies preferred timing of 3840x2160p at 60Hz. The Acer doesn't have a VIC marked as native so either the BenQ and Acer have different problems, or they have the same problem that is none of the above.
I guess the adapter doesn't have a problem with the VSDB as I originally suspected since the Philips (which works) has a similar VSDB to the BenQ (except the BenQ uses CEC physical address of 2.0.0.0 instead of 1.0.0.0 like the Philips).
So I finally tested on a few devices. The odroid c2 kinda works. If using the provided android image, I can get 4k60hz no issue. Installing the provided linux image or libreelec I can only get 4k30hz. I'm going to boil this down to a bug in the linux kernel being used.
My brother also visited today and brought with him his PS4 Pro. I quickly tested it out with the adapter and it detected 4k60hz just fine (image of video output information https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n3UAGXZkRpGEzAjEogiDHaXaJTMkDDx_).
I also contacted siig support re: hdcp 2.2, but it was like talking to a brick wall. They just regurgitated the spec sheet over and over. Oh well. I'm sure /another/ adapter filling this gap will come in time.
Does the Philips BDM4065UC show the current resolution? The user manual says there's a notification (that you can disable) when the display is powered on at a resolution that is not 3840 x 2160 @ 60 Hz but the manual doesn't show what the notification looks like.
For linux, maybe you have to use the command line to create a new 4K 60Hz resolution? (randr or xrandr or whatever).
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The LG has a 4K timing that is slightly different than the Samsung or my Dell:
LG:
"3840x2160" 533.280 3840 3848 3992 4000 2160 2214 2219 2222 +hsync -vsync
Samsung:
"3840x2160" 533.250 3840 3888 3920 4000 2160 2163 2168 2222 +hsync -vsync
Dell:
"3840x2160" 533.250 3840 3902 3950 4000 2160 2163 2168 2222 +hsync -vsync
There are other differences but I don't see anything strange. The LG, Samsung, and DP don't have a VSDB.
1) You have to test if the display can accept a DisplayPort signal using the converter's HDMI timing. If not, then that's probably the problem.
2) If that is the problem, then you should test if the display can accept a DisplayPort timing using the Display's DisplayPort timing (of course that should work).
3) Then test if the display can accept a DisplayPort signal from the converter using the display's DisplayPort timing.
If #3 doesn't work, then the problem is not a timing issue but something else with the adapter.
I was told that the SIIG converter will not work with my monitor.
Here's what the support told me,
"Our converter does support 4K 60HZ, the issue lies in the mismatching pixel clock (either 533MHZ or 594MHZ) between the source- PS4 Pro and the XB321HK G-Sync Gaming Monitor, usually graphics cards’ pixel clock will work fine with G-Sync gaming monitor. It is a limitation of our product."
That's a crappy explanation. The XB321HK's DisplayPort EDID has a 533.250 MHz timing. Are they saying the PS4 Pro only outputs the 594 MHz timing reported by the adapter's HDMI input and the XB321HK won't support 594 MHz from it's DisplayPort input? That would be reasonable since the XB321HK's EDID indicates a max of 540 MHz.
It looks like when you tested with a PC or laptop that you did not try using a custom EDID for the PC's HDMI port with a 533.25 MHz timing matching the XB321HK's DisplayPort timing. If that works, then SIIG should give you a firmware update that replaces one of the four EDID's with one that has the same 533.25 MHz timing.
I tried your XB321HK's 533.25 MHz timing with my CMV-535 adapter and Dell display and it works fine. 594 MHz also works. 533.31 MHz too. I used SwitchResX in macOS to create the custom resolution. The SIIG adapter should also be able to use the 533.25 MHz timing. The problem is that you can't create a custom resolution for the PS4 Pro, which is why you need a new firmware for your adapter to tell the PS4 Pro the correct timing. My Dell doesn't display the pixel clock that it's receiving (only the resolution and refresh rate), so I can't be sure the adapter is faithfully reproducing the HDMI input signal on the DisplayPort output signal.
You said before that you didn't get any image from any resolution from the PC or laptop through your adapter. That is bizarre. Did you try 1920x1080 or whatever? Custom resolutions? Did their tech support have an explanation for this?
To be clear, it's reasonable that the SIIG adapter in it's current state (uses 594 MHz) can't support the XB321HK (which expects 533.25 MHz). But it is unreasonable that they haven't tried a firmware update to enable the compatible timing of 533.25 MHz.
Their own product page says:
- Dual mode Micro USB port to power the adapter using the included power adapter, plus firmware update capability to ensure performance and compatibility
It seems they're not trying very hard to "ensure compatibility."
I asked the support why a firmware update is not a possibility to make it work with my monitor. I really appreciate you being so helpful, but i am not very tech savvy so i cannot answer much. I tried all EDID's on the converter, but i cannot get any signal on my pc. I'll keep you posted once the support gets back to me.