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CAC-1085 and issues with current nVidia driver (Club3D or nVidia?)

Updated on 14-04-2021 in DisplayPort 1.4 to 4K120Hz HDMI Adapter
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13 on 13-01-2021

Greetings.

Some users on this forum are reporting issues with the CAC-1085 adapter and recent drivers from nVidia. It would be interesting to know if this is common, and what cards does it happen with.

The reason for this is, after spending last night trying to enable 120Hz in Linux with the most recent driver from nVidia (460.32.03), I stumbled across this error in my logs related to 3840×2160@120Hz (reported by the driver, apparently):

[ 2358.878] (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Mode is rejected: DP Bandwidth check failed.
[ 2358.878] (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): GPU extended capability check failed.

The question is, why does the bandwidth check fail? Does the driver fail to negotiate with the device because it ignores that the adapter is using DSC (without which the bandwidth would probably be insuffcient)? Can this be affected with firmware or is it a 100% nVidia thing? I’m not familiar enough with the subject, but hopefully someone is 😀

And does this affect all nVidia users trying to use resolution/refresh/bit depth combinations with “too high” bandwidth requirements through the adapter?

I’m using the adapter with a Asus Strix 2080Ti, and can not enable these settings.

A working solution to this would be great, with the lack on any actual availability of modern GPUs.

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Baak 2 on 13-01-2021

Hi Suti,

I’ve seen many problems like this.

I assume you are using an LG C9? If you downgrade to driver 456.38 you will be able to get 4k120Hz. Not sure if the drivers are different for Linux but I believe drivers before November 2020 should work.

I wonder if you get any other error logs via Linux when it doesn’t give you the 4k120Hz. Everyone is wondering why the drivers of Nvidia “block”  the CAC-1085.

suti on 14-01-2021

Close, the CX. 

Those two are the only errors that seem to pop up. Rolling back to 440 everything works just fine. 

It is very odd that nVidia would disable a feature just like that. 

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Baak on 15-01-2021

Yeah it is very odd..

But a very bold assumption would be they do that because they want to sell their RTX3000 series and not want to have the RTX2000 series be able to do 4K120Hz by a third party adapter…. But we will never know I guess.

 

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joevt 1 on 13-01-2021

Club-3d can’t fix this. The adapter reports support for DSC but the driver doesn’t support DSC? Talk to the people that created the driver. Does the Linux Nvidia driver support DSC? AMD added DSC support for Linux last year.

I have a question about the functioning of the CAC-1085 and HDMI 2.1. Is there a difference between HDMI 2.0 and 2.1 cables that the adapter can detect or does it have to test the four lanes for signal quality? Does the CAC-1085 change any info (DPCD or EDID) reported to the host depending on the connection or is all info expected to be in the EDID?

Baak on 15-01-2021

Hi Joevt,

HDMI 2.0 is a TMDS signal where the HDMI 2.1 is a FRL signal. Which gets detected by the adapter. If you plug in an HDMI 2.0 cable it wont be able to push a 4k120hz signal. All info is in  the EDID.

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luke87 3 on 31-03-2021

nvidia has fixed this issue in latest driver 465.89 released 2021-03-30

work on LG CX 48 4k@120HZ  in FULL RGB / 444 10bit 

Rob on 02-04-2021

I can also confirm it working whit driver 465.89

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Bluabird on 08-04-2021

I just bought CAC-1085. I have NVIDIA 2080, 465.89 drivers, and Samsunq Q80T. I can select 4k120hz HDR RGB from NVIDIA control panel, but after some time it starts getting blackscreens. I also get annoying flickering. I have tried different hdmi2.1 cables with same results. What am i doing wrong?

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Baak on 09-04-2021

Which cables and how long is the cable?

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Bluabird 2 on 09-04-2021

With the adapter i ordered Club3d 3m hdmi2.1 cable. When adapter arrived, i noticed that it supports only 2m and shorter cables. 4k60hz was visible on the control panel. I tried 1m hdmi2.0 cable that was lying around and with that 4k120hz HDR 10bits RGB were visible. Different amount of flickering was visible, but 4k120hz was working something like 1hour. After one hour it started to get blackouts every 30s. Next day i went to local shop and bought 1m hdmi2.1 cable, it is working exactly same as my old cable (some amount of flickering and after some time blackouts every 30s).  https://www.power.fi/tv-ja-audio/kaapelit-ja-adapterit/hdmi-kaapelit/dacota-platinum-8k-premium-hdmi-kaapeli-1m/p-1049108/ 

Baak on 12-04-2021

Bluabird,

Please contact [email protected]

Sounds like you have an old firmware version. The CAC-1373 should work no problem.

HDMI 2.0 will never work. It won’t be able to transfer the bandwith it needs for 4K120Hz.

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mda on 14-04-2021

HDMI 2.0 will never work. It won’t be able to transfer the bandwidth it needs for 4K120Hz.

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I assume you meant HDMI 2.0 will never work to provide 4k/120hz using RGB color.

 

But for those that read this, it is able to provide 4k/120hz using 8-bit YCbCr 4:2:0 color if the source and display device support that format.

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Bluabird 0 on 09-04-2021

I haven’t tried old drivers yet, that is probably next thing i will do.

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